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senator john mccain is here. good evening, sir. good evening. >> greta: there was an interesting debate last night. let me get the overall view. i know that you said earlier it was poor. but if you could elaborate on that? >> greta, i think that it obviously was a very big win for for -- for mitt. i think it's pretty obvious that -- that president obama has spent the last four years in a bubble with an adoring media. but i also know that barack obama is a very excellent debater. he knows -- he will be going over the mistakes that he made and i think that he hrs is going to be much better and much better prepared in the next debate. this was really important. i saw where i think 67 million people watched. and one of the most important things about this, gret awas that they have spent -- the obama campaign has spent hundreds of millions of dollars portraying mitt romney as a bain capital capitalist, driving the unfavorables up, especially in the swing states and mitt romney, last night, came across as a person of capability, of visio
senator john mccain is here. good evening, sir. good evening. >> greta: there was an interesting debate last night. let me get the overall view. i know that you said earlier it was poor. but if you could elaborate on that? >> greta, i think that it obviously was a very big win for for -- for mitt. i think it's pretty obvious that -- that president obama has spent the last four years in a bubble with an adoring media. but i also know that barack obama is a very excellent debater. he...
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john mccain hands down. when i went into the voting booth, for some reason, and i cannot explain it, i voted for president barack obama. i can tell you, i am not happy, but i believe, most people, my estimation, most people in my estimation who voted for our president are unhappy. though polls tell you one thing and on the day when people will vote their conscience, something will happen. when people watch the presidential debates tonight, they will be listening with their eyes. they will not understand a lot of the words going by because they are not qualified to understand it. they will just say, i like what that person said. i like how they said it. stuart: i believe that you have been turned off president obama by his relationship with israel. i think that is a big issue. >> that is foolish. you do not have to be a political pundit or a world-class expert in foreign policy. if israel is not our best friend in the middle east, who is? syria? stuart: in 2008 president obama got 78% of the jewish vote. what
john mccain hands down. when i went into the voting booth, for some reason, and i cannot explain it, i voted for president barack obama. i can tell you, i am not happy, but i believe, most people, my estimation, most people in my estimation who voted for our president are unhappy. though polls tell you one thing and on the day when people will vote their conscience, something will happen. when people watch the presidential debates tonight, they will be listening with their eyes. they will not...
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john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was substance. it was a deep, deep knowledge that he showed on the economy, on the deb, on the deficit, on health care. every issue that came up. and obama stammering, stambling, without that teleprompter, this guy is lost. this is a myth that was shattered last night. he was reduced in 90 minutes, before the american people, i felt. >> yeah. that's because romney had a clarity of purpose, a clarity of mind, a clarity of principles that we know that obama has lacked for a long, long time. i think that going forward now, there is now an extra burden on these liberal journalists to do-- >>> not
john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was...
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john mccain and i share that. you combine all that with being a team with the only track record of making any difference of where we've been in reforming, and that's a good team, it is a good ticket. >> senator? >> you are very kind. she said my only achille's heel is my enthusiasm. people can judge who i am. i haven't changed in that time. by the way, the record of change, i will place my record and barack's record against anyone. we put 100,000 cops on the street. john mccain voted against both of those bills. the catalyst to change led by president clinton, obviously. i understand what it is like to be a single parent. when my wife and daughter died and my sue sons were gravely injured, i understand what it is like as a parent to wonder if your kid is going to make it. i understand what it is like to sit around the table with a father who says, i have to leave. when we get enough money, we'll bring you down. i understand what it is like. i am much better off than most americans now. i get a good salary in the u
john mccain and i share that. you combine all that with being a team with the only track record of making any difference of where we've been in reforming, and that's a good team, it is a good ticket. >> senator? >> you are very kind. she said my only achille's heel is my enthusiasm. people can judge who i am. i haven't changed in that time. by the way, the record of change, i will place my record and barack's record against anyone. we put 100,000 cops on the street. john mccain...
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boehner, john mccain, rudy giuliani and even president george w. bush. but when he was transferred to ohio to face charges, the man authorities believed to be thompson signed into prison as mister x leaving officials to believe he was hiding something more. >> started googling similarities, people that are wanted for fraud, major fraud. >> reporter: u.s. marshal peter eliat said searching the skpr net he found an fbi poster for a similar man. that man was john donald cody a harvard educated attorney who had mysteriously disappeared from his arizona law practice in 1984. and was later indicted on four counts of a state fraud. the original wanted poster described a man without tear ducts so eliot called thunderstorm watchson's land lady that her tenant left something unusual, two big bottles of eye drops. >> it said he had no tear duct, he had to use eye drops all the time. in our world one and one equals two. >> reporter: also left behind in that apartment one dvd. >> been a while since i've done this. >> reporter: leonardo dicaprio's portrayal of a
boehner, john mccain, rudy giuliani and even president george w. bush. but when he was transferred to ohio to face charges, the man authorities believed to be thompson signed into prison as mister x leaving officials to believe he was hiding something more. >> started googling similarities, people that are wanted for fraud, major fraud. >> reporter: u.s. marshal peter eliat said searching the skpr net he found an fbi poster for a similar man. that man was john donald cody a harvard...
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john mccain had that opportunity and decided not to do it. >> i think you do it subtly and go to the credibility thing -- >> greta: you do it without getting caught. do you it without getting caught? >> i don't see him being asked about this tomorrow. >> greta: i don't know. but it will be interesting. of course, you will be watching our midnight show, right? stand by, panel. we will be back. but up next, the presidential debate is like a big job interview. what does governor romney have to do to be hired? the world's most famous boss, donald trump is here. in 90 second, have you seen part of president obama's speech. what do you think of that controversial speech? we will give you another look. then we want to hear from you. it is just 90 seconds away. are you ready ? share everything by turning your smartphone into a mobile hotspot for up to 8 wifi-enabled devices at no extra charge. like the new droid razr m by motorola only $99.99. >> greta: president obama goes off script and now he is taking lots of heat. now you have seen it, candidate obama in 2007, in a passionate speech to
john mccain had that opportunity and decided not to do it. >> i think you do it subtly and go to the credibility thing -- >> greta: you do it without getting caught. do you it without getting caught? >> i don't see him being asked about this tomorrow. >> greta: i don't know. but it will be interesting. of course, you will be watching our midnight show, right? stand by, panel. we will be back. but up next, the presidential debate is like a big job interview. what does...
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and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the day, when men and women were free. we will fight for it, and there is only one man in this race who has really ever fought for you, and that's senator john mccain. >> thank you, governor. senator biden. >> gwen, thank you for doing this, and the commission, and governor, it really was a pleasure getting to meet you. look, folks, this is the most important election you've ever voted in your entire life. no one can deny that the last eight years, we've been dug into a very deep hole here at home with regard to our econo
and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the...
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i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened, but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes, this was -- this is being thoroughly investigated. >> first they said it wasn't planned, it was part of this tape. >> as a director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or administration that shoots first and asks questions later. >> but is that wha
i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the...
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you know, this was a point in 2008 when something similar happened with john mccain. he couldn't recall in an interview how many houses or properties he owned. that became a sort of explaining narrative for all sorts of reasons why, and this may sound familiar, why he seemed out of touch. this 47% video resonated to a greater degree than john mccain not remembering how many homes he owned. so, if you have failed at this point to explain who you are, if you have another version of that story out there, you cannot undo it in one debate. you can try and engage with people directly to camera, but mitt romney is also going to want to land some punches. that's going to take time away from his job, number one, which should be telling people, for once, who he really is. >> i think that may be intentional. john, this is how romney's running mate paul ryan addressed the 47% comment captured in that secret video yesterday. take a listen. >> is there any way possible that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and
you know, this was a point in 2008 when something similar happened with john mccain. he couldn't recall in an interview how many houses or properties he owned. that became a sort of explaining narrative for all sorts of reasons why, and this may sound familiar, why he seemed out of touch. this 47% video resonated to a greater degree than john mccain not remembering how many homes he owned. so, if you have failed at this point to explain who you are, if you have another version of that story out...
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john mccain. the republican national committee seized on governor romney's dominance in the evening sky and the president's principal reaction to that and entitled the smirk. >> the cut the deficit in half. four years later and we have a trillion dollar deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. the people who are having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. there just being crushed. middle income americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. at the same time gasoline prices have doubled. electric rates are up, food prices are up. if you're reelected we will get to a trillion dollar debt. you have said before you cut the debt in half. lou: and to post debate polls gave the debate to governor romney. by a huge margin. in fact, the biggest one in history according to one of those polls. the cbs poll showed that 42 percent called romney the victor with only 22 percent s
john mccain. the republican national committee seized on governor romney's dominance in the evening sky and the president's principal reaction to that and entitled the smirk. >> the cut the deficit in half. four years later and we have a trillion dollar deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. the people who are having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. there...
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bush, john mccain, bob dole, they were not debaters. the republicans finally have someone on the state that could take it to a democratic challenger. >> colby? >> the prospect of hanging focuses the mind. did run the credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out of south carolina behind. he pulled together, took on new toingrich, and inhe same thing to him as a bid to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in the eye, and not be condescending or patronizing. in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point
bush, john mccain, bob dole, they were not debaters. the republicans finally have someone on the state that could take it to a democratic challenger. >> colby? >> the prospect of hanging focuses the mind. did run the credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out of south carolina behind. he pulled together, took on new toingrich, and inhe same thing to him as a bid to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in...
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arizona senator john mccain says companies have a choice. whether to rely on the administration's politically motivated guidance or to comply with the law. "i can assure them i will do everything in my power to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to compensate contractors who do not comply with the law." while the administration is betting it will prevail on the showdown, congress has the power of the purse. beyond this fight, there is also a concern this would gut the warn act and may hurt workers in the communities if employers don't feel required to give out layoff notices. bret? >> bret: emanuel back in washington. thank you. now to tonight's text to vote question. we thought we'd ask you the memorable debate moment. we had four. sr1 to ronald reagan to president carter in 1980. there you go again on democratic charges for medicare. text sr2 for lloyd benson to dan quail in 1988. he use jack kennedy and you're no jack kennedy. sr3. size in 2000. sr4. gerald ford's answer in 1976 there was no soviet domination of eastern europe. res
arizona senator john mccain says companies have a choice. whether to rely on the administration's politically motivated guidance or to comply with the law. "i can assure them i will do everything in my power to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to compensate contractors who do not comply with the law." while the administration is betting it will prevail on the showdown, congress has the power of the purse. beyond this fight, there is also a concern this would gut the warn act...
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we did not even know of john mccain would show up on the night. so that september, mitt romney had a tough month, people ask me all the time with a point to happen? , if you's pretty early think. think. 18 days with sarah palin seemed like a lifetime to me. got two lifetimes, that's like 40 days. a lot can happen on the campaign trail between now and then. it's a very interesting time. let's roll back a little. let's talk about the early days. first, my story. how i got to the campaign. i will go back to september again, 2006. my wife and i were sitting on the banks of the potomac in alexandria, virginia. we have our pad and paper. paper being married to a serial campaigner, she has to go through this ritual every year where we say what are our goals for the year? it never goes exactly the way we want, but it makes me feel better, and she plays a long. we're on the banks of the potomac and we had a nice life. i had a consulting practice i was very happy with and i enjoyed the balance of my life. my wife was working at the university doing public r
we did not even know of john mccain would show up on the night. so that september, mitt romney had a tough month, people ask me all the time with a point to happen? , if you's pretty early think. think. 18 days with sarah palin seemed like a lifetime to me. got two lifetimes, that's like 40 days. a lot can happen on the campaign trail between now and then. it's a very interesting time. let's roll back a little. let's talk about the early days. first, my story. how i got to the campaign. i will...
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bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in the eye, and not be condescending or patronizing. he dealt with obama the way that obama should i dealt with him. >> in the 50 years of presidential debates, i do not think there has been a debate in which there was such a decisive win in the absence of a gaffe. if you have one like the one with ford in eastern europe, others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or one of the bad moments, like, i knew jack kennedy, you're no jack kennedy. but there was no sound bite in
bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well prepared. he was...
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boehner, former presidential candidate ru rudy giuliani and john mccain and even president george w. bush. but when he was transferred to ohio to face charges, the man authorities believed to be thompson signed in to prison as mister x, leading ofgs ining of believe he was hiding something more. >> major fraud fugitives. >> u.s. marshal peter elliott said by simply searching the internet he found an fbi wanted posted for a similar-looking man, john donald cody, harvard educated attorney who mysterious disappeared from his arizona law practice in 1984 and was later indicted in four counts of estate fraud. original wanted posters described a man without tear ducts. former landlady was called who said her one-time tenant left behind something unusual, two big bottles of eye drops. >> it's said that he had no tear ducts, that he had to use eye drops all the time. in my world, in our world, one and one equals two. >> reporter: also left behind in that apartment, one dvd. >> it's been a while since i've done this. which one is the jump seat again? >> reporter: a fugitive on the run in "cat
boehner, former presidential candidate ru rudy giuliani and john mccain and even president george w. bush. but when he was transferred to ohio to face charges, the man authorities believed to be thompson signed in to prison as mister x, leading ofgs ining of believe he was hiding something more. >> major fraud fugitives. >> u.s. marshal peter elliott said by simply searching the internet he found an fbi wanted posted for a similar-looking man, john donald cody, harvard educated...
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a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i wa to play that. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals are saying or asynchronies between the nonverbals. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. ewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. it is very adversive to see that kind of thing. >> there are reports that romney's team is preparing what are called zingers for tomorrow night's debate. when a candidate has been stung by one, it can be very effective. the exchange between ronald reagan and w
a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i wa to play that. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that...
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one was, remember when he first started running for president against, in the primary when john mccain was the candidate? he tended to like to talk about data, and we even joked how he was so focused on data. >> paul: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of focusing on that, romney is saying, you spent two years trying to pass one of your big priorities in social legislation and that's hurt job creation, a powerful point. >> yeah, it's a good point, but i think the health care issue is not going to go away in this debate. we're going to hear more of it. barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medic
one was, remember when he first started running for president against, in the primary when john mccain was the candidate? he tended to like to talk about data, and we even joked how he was so focused on data. >> paul: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to...
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we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regu
we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some...
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but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the nationa
but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of...
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mccain, that cindy mccain got very upset and ran crying out of the room. i talked to rob portman about that, he told me that story, and listen to what he said about why it is so important, to be so hard on his republican opponents in debate prep. >> part of your responsibility in these debates is to be tougher than your opponent. so that they -- the candidate you're helping is ready for the worst of it. so, you know, you have to be a little mean sometimes and kind of try to get under their skin and sometimes the candidate you're working with doesn't appreciate it and, you know -- >> now, in this case, ashleigh, the candidate he's working with does seem to appreciate it. mitt romney joked a few times on the campaign trail with rob portman behind him, sometimes on his plane, sometimes on the stump, that he just wants to sometimes kick him out of the room, but he knows how important it is to be as prepared as possible and to not be surprised by anything that president obama will say going into tonight's debate and the way to do that is to have somebody really
mccain, that cindy mccain got very upset and ran crying out of the room. i talked to rob portman about that, he told me that story, and listen to what he said about why it is so important, to be so hard on his republican opponents in debate prep. >> part of your responsibility in these debates is to be tougher than your opponent. so that they -- the candidate you're helping is ready for the worst of it. so, you know, you have to be a little mean sometimes and kind of try to get under...
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he certainly -- hillary clinton during the primary and even a little bit toward john mccain and didn't need to. i saw this election season he can't run on his record would be full of claims of -a-imaginary racism. and ultimately the point of the book is don't fall for it again, america. >> one of the policies that came out of the 1970's is affirmative action. it's going to be reviewed again by the supreme court in another week and a half or so. so what are your views about the effectiveness of -- or lack thereof of affirmative action? >> my law firm, center for individual rights, brought the case against my alma mater. university of michigan law school. we won the law school case. we lost the undergrad case. and i think at this point, it is -- and there have been more recent studies about how it is a disaster for black people. but mostly i think it's a disaster for america. at this point, i will say, -- >> why? >> you get past discrimination by not discriminating on the basis of race. that's the way to do it. i will say one of the things that conservatives have generally not liked abou
he certainly -- hillary clinton during the primary and even a little bit toward john mccain and didn't need to. i saw this election season he can't run on his record would be full of claims of -a-imaginary racism. and ultimately the point of the book is don't fall for it again, america. >> one of the policies that came out of the 1970's is affirmative action. it's going to be reviewed again by the supreme court in another week and a half or so. so what are your views about the...
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even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for tonight, they don't want a pitch at office park dads. they want -- they want the candidates to speak to the country. >> but i'm curious, michael, how many people do you think are watching, not asking for an exact number, i don't think you walk around counting folks, your idea on thoughts,
even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we...